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on the economy. the washington post writes that the white house is ratcheting up pressure to avoid the fiscal cliff. on c-span tonight, we will bring you some of the house and senate debate from august of 2011, when congress passed the budget control act that triggered cuts to take effect on january 1. we will also hear from president obama, who signed the deficit reduction measure into law, part of the deal to raise the debt ceiling. first, senate majority leader harry reid and republican majority leader mitch mcconnell will talk on the senate floor about the january fiscal deadline. >> since our country voted to return president obama to the white house, i have spoken often about compromise. i remain optimistic that, when it comes to our economy, when it comes to protecting middle-class families from a whopping tax hike, republicans and democrats will be able to find common ground. president dwight eisenhower, a republican, once said, "people talk about the middle of the road as though it were unacceptable. there have to be compromises. the middle of the road is all usable space." so said w
that could very well damage the economy. but the air of compromise among some notable republicans is definitely grabbing attention. the republicans' comments quickly caught fire. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> a pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed and the economic situation is different. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. i made tennesseans aware, i was just elected, that the only thing i'm monitoring is the oath that i take when i serve when i'm sworn in this january. >> reporter: gop lawmakers bluntly stating to alert the fiscal cliff, they're ready to break from grover norquist and the pledge he's got most republicans to sign to never raise taxes. norquist waste nod time hitting back on cnn's s"starting point" >> it doesn't pass the laugh test. if you want to go to your voters and say, i promised you this and i'm breaking that problem, you can have that conversation with them. but you don't have an argument with me. you've made a c
going to make the economy worse. they just keep pumping more debt in the the economy. host: you are saying go over the fiscal cliff? caller: yes. it is not even enough in my opinion to balance the budget. it is still about three times the average deficit under bush. let us go back to the clinton tax era. eileen anywhere between republican and libertarian. up -- yes i am not. i lean anywhere between republican and a libertarian. host: what do you make of republicans up on capitol hill -- to sort of a back off the tax pledge that he took when he ran for senate, saying he would not raise taxes. caller: if we are going to raise taxes my important thing is raising them on everybody. because if they try to strike a compromise where only the rich get taxed, then it gets more progressive. it is not a point to help the budget. we are right to raise taxes, raise them all the way down to where clinton had them. host: senators lindsey gramm represented peter king, talking publicly abandoning the pledge of democrats will talk seriously about entitlement reforms. rest in peace, grover norquis
on the horizon. that's where we begin this morning. how confident are you about the state of the u.s. economy? what steps are you taking to prepare for the potential impact if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff? give us a call this morning. you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter or facebook. or e-mail us. thismorning to you on wednesday, november 21. we are talking about federal reserve chairman ben bernanke's comments yesterday about the fiscal cliff, and getting your thoughts on bthe u.s. economy. and this headline -- also, in the financial times -- to tell little bit more about ben bernanke's , and sister day we turn to david clarke of "politico," their financial services editor. thanks for joining us. guest: thanks for having me. host: what is making the most waves from his speech? guest: in the past he has warned that congress and the president's path to take care of the fiscal cliff. yesterday he said it is not simply doing it but how they do it, making a point that voters will be looking to see if they can do this in a cooperative manner, whether
, we will ask a business expert what fewer shoppers means for the overall economy. rick: shifting gears now overseas, the hamas terrorist group is accusing israel of breaking the ceasefire rules agreed to only a couple of days ago, two days after a truce was reached along the israel/gaza border. the shooting death of a palestinian man today could threaten the already-fragile agreement. conor powell is live in jerusalem with the very latest. >> reporter: well, rick, given that the level of trust between israel and hamas is so low, expectations for this ceasefire were even lower. but it appears to have passed its first major hurdle. earlier today several hundred palestinians went to the border between gaza and israel, some reportedly there to check on land across the border in israel, others were, no doubt, hamas sympathizers testing the ceasefire. but as israeli trooped told them to back off from the border area, they refused, and israeli troops opens fire killing one palestinian. both israel and hamas accused the other ofhe ceasefire agreement, but neither side took steps to escal
to cripple the syrian economy. eight round-trip flights between moscow and damascus delivering more than 200 tons of, quote, bank notes into syria. u.s. and european sanctions include a ban on syrian currency in an attempt to slow the violence that's killed thousands of people. syria and russian officials have so far not responded to the reports. >>> overseas tens of thousands are rallying today in cairo's tahrir square protesting what they view as a blatant power grab by president mohamed horsey. with tensions mounting yesterday, morsi appeared to soften his controversial attempt to award himself near absolute power above the reach of the law. in a vaguely worded statement, morsi spokesman backtracked slightly saying that only acts of sovereignty would be immune from oversight. >>> well, u.s. consumers went big this weekend for small business saturday. millions of holiday shoppers spent a total of $5.5 billion during the third annual local business shopping event. mika spent half of that in the south of france. and that's not even counted in that tally. for more on the holiday shopping seas
to raise taxes on small businesses because it would damage the economy. now he thinks this economy is stronger than it was two years ago and we are in better shape to take the economic hit. it is an interesting question. if you go over the tax cliff and taxes are raised dramatically, the house would have our past -- will already have passed. on the sequester, i thought if republicans won the house and senate of the president say, since it -- sequestration would not happen. it denied give up any of the savings from the sequestered . but did so by impacted the pentagon less heavily than the sequestered it. but divided government, i think you get the question. president said he does not want to change the money for the pentagon. mitch mcconnell said we are not raising taxes to ransom the pentagon budget cuts. a lot of focus has been on the pentagon but these are more concerned about the $50 billion in domestic discretionary spending restraint every year. you did to the republican study committee. the announced all a thing worse than sequestration would not be having savings. this stam
comprehensive immigration reform. he sees it as a key part to stabilizing the economy, investing in the middle class, not having a subclass of 11 million people that hurt economic revitalization. for him i think it is a piece of the middle class agenda. >> are the other unions working with senator schuman who say they are starting to work on a piece of legislation? >> the majority leader and center schumer. we have some issues with this idea, but we applaud his enthusiasm. we are trying to get him on the steps of key elements that are important to us. >> where do you disagree? >> i think he thinks a national id card is required. we do nothing that needs to be part of the solution to fixing the broken immigration system. >> washington journal continues. host:jim martin n. he will be talking about the future of health care, especially the elements of the affordable care act that are put to place. guest: glad to be here. host: what does it mean in general for older americans now that the election is over? guest: i think things like obamacare, the affordable care act, seniors were opposed to it b
think there's a very serious damage done to the economy and to the world economy and the approaches bush took running up to this and that obama is put on steroids. this is in the middle of many problems to continue to not be ended. and the was a very big problem. to be much more serious about spending and it was in that way before. >> how do you fix? >> the house republicans already passed the budget that would work and pass the extension of the tax cuts they would work and you go in and have these conversations in front of the american people without about how romney is mean to dogs and causes cancer and actually talking about issues. and i think that is a debate that we need to have. we haven't had it, certainly didn't have it in this last election and we can have it now. it's very helpful. i think at the end of the day we will make the right decision partially because the democrats are terrified of the damage that obama has to drive them over and they wouldn't actually do that as obama threatened to throw us off a cliff year ago in august and didn't. >> we weren't going to get the neg
cure the economy. the senior editor of "the atlantic" joins us live in the next half hour. he has an interesting perspective. >>> ambassador susan rice heads to capitol hill this morning to mend fences with three republican senators. john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly a at with her information comments made on several networks that played down the role of terrorists in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, that killed four americans including ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains she made it clear the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators have threatened to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of state. >>> and the obama administration responds to the benghazi attack does not get high marks from americans. the results of a new poll out this morning shows a majority of those questioned, 54%, say they are dissatisfied with the administration's handling of the attack. >>> and the body of yasser arafat was exhumed this morning from a mausoleum in the west bank. a team of international scienti
line, if you're a retail giant and just trying to get the most you can in a tough economy, do you see why they want to get out there and just get a jump-start and open up tonight? >> i definitely do, especially in the economic times understand why they would open. however, they are claiming to have consulting every employee's work schedule and requests but i can guarantee that not every single employee was personally consulted as to whether they wanted to work thanksgiving or black friday. target also flat-out ignored availability. for example, my fellow coworker never works fridays due to previous childcare arrangements with her daughter and she is scheduled to work black friday anyway. >> clearly it is not making people happy, but i thank you for coming in to share your thoughts. happy thanksgiving. >>> coming up, if congress can't get a deal done, how will it impact your pocketbook in the new year? >>> plus, how victims of hurricane sandy won't be forgotten this holiday. i had enough of feeling embarrassed about my skin. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe
strategy pay off for retailers? will concerns about the sluggish economy and the fiscal cliff keep consumers home? all questions we seek answers to. >> let's get some answers. cnbc contributor stacy liblet at queens center mall here in new york city. we also have liz dunn of mcquarry capital on the west coast in san francisco. great to have you all with us. laura, why don't i get to you first of all. what are you seeing out there on the floor of the malls? >> so traffic's slowing a little bit which is normal for the afternoon. i think that most of the traffic -- most of the big buys were for electronics and toys. those happened last night. they may be happening online more and more. but the mall's bit slow, we think, relative to a year ago. >> do you think people came in earlier with all of these earlier openings that we've been hearing about? do you feel maybe that's just drifted off a little bit as everyone's now done their shopping and gone loam to bed? >> i'm pretty sure that that is what has happened here. you don't normally see -- this is an urban mall in queens. i would not
to a president with a failed economy, horrible unemployment numbers and shouldn't have been that difficult. >> and the republicans do revert back and try and say that we should try to get everyone get along and that wasn't president obama's approach. >> what i've learned from the results of this election is if i was somebody trying to get mitt romney elected tell the biography, this is one of the best biographies and resume's to return for president, i would have spent time even if it goes over a guy like mine's head, tell us about the companies and things you've done for people. and in the 30's, people were wondering you, how are you going to support four kids, and you found time to be a bishop in a church. and yes, the word mormon may have come up. >> and they broke the rule, you define yourself positively first, they allowed the obama people to define them for months, why they didn't put on the bio spot for me one of the greatest questions in politics. >> because the buyo spot. >> do you agree? >> absolutely right. and he has a great resume', but that's not what was going to win the ele
are not spread across the board. the economy would take a hit of $500 billion, probably sending the country back boo recession. i get what the white house is saying and what people like patty murray are saying about how we should negotiate this and whether it's a cliff or a slope. >> it's a financial cliff claven. >> slope. >> i think even if it is a slope, if we go over the fiscal slope, it will do a lot of damage. >> right it could -- the markets will react, freak out. >> that's where the damage will be done. >> i love politico, a growing block of emboldened emboldened liberals. [ screaming ] >> say they're not afraid to watch defense spending get gouged. [ scream ] >> stephanie: if republicans captain see their way toward additional revenues then we're better off going over the cliff and readdressing this with a better congress in january. >> it's the republicans holding the country hostage. >> they're saying it's more of a slope where the economic effects will be handled gradually. we're going to have a whole new congress. >> more democrats. >> we have the technology. we can make them better
president obama's deep cuts will have a deep effect to our economy. he used the word dwast stating. snowing this how could anyone support depleting another $1.8 billion from an already stretched budget? president obama's climate chief defended the green fleet by arguing even a dollar rise in gasoline prices would cost d.o.d. $30 billion. believe my good friend, the senator from colorado said essentially the same thing. i agree with that. if every $1 rise in gas prices cost $30 million, a $27 increase would add up to about $660 million so that argument falls completely flat in realizing the economic angle is a political hoozer the obama administration has tried to say it's about national security in getting off of foreign oil. that's where i want to get. i spent several years as chairman of the environment and public works committee and several years as the ranking member. all during that time people keep saying the one thing we all agree on is we need to be off of foreign oil. we need not to be dependent upon the middle east. and yet right now we know and no one is going to refute this fact
people are flying. another reason is because of the economy, some people are saying i'm going to hold off in terms of booking a flight especially because fares are not dropping. because there's limited capacity. the airlines have been able to hold fares at a fairly consistent level. they are down according to aa compared to last year. still, you won't find too many bargains unless you're looking for last minute deals to nontraditional places. one other thing, guys, as we take a look at rental car stocks, you've heard a lot of stories over the last couple of days. it's true. if you were looking to rent a car in the northeastern united states, which some people do during the holiday weekend, good luck because most of them are already spoken for. this is the carryover effect from superstorm sandy. so many cars were damaged, destroyed during the storm. as a result, rental cars have been tight for some time in the northeastern united states. and that's the case this weekend. a lot of people, believe it or not, guys, they do like to rent a car in order to make the trip of 300 or 400 miles. this
us a lot about the state of the consumer and the u.s. economy today. so we're turning to one of the most seasoned and respected voices on wall street for help. we have dana telsey. she is our guest host for the next three hours. andrew, i'll send it over to you. >> we begin with a visit to toyland and here is toys r us. it opened its doors at 8:00 last night. and we have toys r us ceo joining us right now from the company's flagship store in times square. good morning. >> good morning. >> so i read a report you you had a big line. what's it been like all evening? >> it's been great. we did have a big line. we're at 44th and broadway.line went all the the way to 45th street and then down 45th all the way to 6th avenue. it was huge. people came in in a real celebratory mood. people ate ice cream, relaxed with their kids. i've never seen a black friday like this before, but 8:00 hour worked really well for families. >> let's talk about sales. how did it go overnight? >> we're just starting. this is 5:00 a.m. on black friday morning. we're really just starting. we have about a b.
for the overall health of the economy. but first, mass protests are erupting in egypt after a sudden power grab. in cairo's tahrir square, thousands are chanting for regime change. they say egypt's new president is acting like a dictator. president mohamed morsi granted himself sweeping new powers yesterday, basically morsi now has absolute power for six months. his opponents say he's acting like a new pharaoh. the u.s. state department is calling for calm and encouraging all parties to work together. morsi declared all his laws, all his decrees are final and cannot be overturned or appealed until egypt's new constitution is put in place. just days ago, people around the world were praising morsi for his pivotal role in negotiating the israel/hamas cease-fire. today, protesters set fire to a symbol of morsi's power, the muslim brotherhood headquarters in alexandria, egypt. morsi supporters clashed with protesters there. morsi is defending his new powers, saying he's not taking sides and the steps he took are meant to achieve political and social stability. reza sayah joins us live in cairo. rez
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. the president promised transparency. the republicans promised certain wisdom when it comes to the economy. unfortunately, and it has not just been this term or last term. this has been going on for a number of years which i think speaks to why we need term limits. host: a few more of the poll results from gallup and "usa today." the dark blue is from 2008, the light blue is from 2012. bring troops home from afghanistan. improve conditions for minorities and the poor. improved education. keep the u.s. safe from terrorism. the quality of the environment. reduce unemployment dropped from 67% to 56%. improve the health care system dropped from 64% to 55%. to go over to the budget, substantially reduce the budget deficit. 42% thought the obama administration would be able to do that in 2008. avoid raising taxes. control illegal immigration. heal political divisions in this country. 54% thought so in 2008. bob in north carolina on are democrats' line. you are up next. caller: i just think it is going to be better coming up this next time because i believe obama it did need a second chance. i vo
building the economy again. -- no matter what the grover norquist or lindsey graham or any of them say, every republican in the house should vote to raise taxes on the rich. the average republican is not making $250,000 a year. they're just saying they should not raise taxes because they are republicans. host: are you a republican? caller: i am, but i voted for obama. host: what would it take for you to vote for republican? in terms of the fiscal cliff, sequestration, big budget cuts, what do you want to see them do? caller: if the republicans could find a candidate that would do what ronald reagan dipped, they would gladly get my vote back. as long as they have people like john mccain, sarah palin, and mitt romney, they are just playing. host: here's a story in the new --k times . david is up next, new york, good morning. caller: good morning. how are ya? i'm a republican and i don't believe that the 1% or a portion of the country should be taxed. it can be mathematically proven. a president handed in m speech to be scored. he never came up with a plan how this money would be redistr
. the organization for economic cooperation and development cut its forecast for the u.s. economy for this year and next year, and on fiscal cliff negotiations, the oecd said, quote, diseaecisive policy actis needed to ensure that stalemates over fiscal policy in the united states and continuing euro area instability do not plunge the world back into recession. plunge back into recession the whole world, a very bad, bad idea. >> a lot of menacing terms there. fiscal cliff a menacing term here. now we know we are just under 35 days away before we fall off that cliff. which could lead to deep spending cuts. want to bring in republican senator pat toomey from pennsylvania. he was a member of the deficit reduction super committee last year that failed to agree on a plan. but he's been talking about this issue for a long, long time. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> we just learned that president obama will be traveling to your backyard on friday to talk about the fiscal cliff and spending, and traveling to pennsylvania right now. is this a welcome visit as far as you're earned? >> as far a
come to a close. to many americans are out of work. our national debt exceeds the size of the economy and threatens to derail our children's future. as a mother, this is a constant worry. yet today we will honor the thanksgiving tradition with wishes of peace and grace. we will pray for those less fortunate. we will think of service members away from home and give thanks for them and their families. our hearts will go out to the families without power after hurricane sandy. we will look ahead to the holidays and a new year. that same spirit of optimism that brings us together today should inspire us all year round. that is why here, in washington, d.c., republicans have reached out to president obama in the hope of working together to help our economy grow and solve the debt that threatens our children's future. the clock is ticking. one month from now, unless congress and the president take action, the current tax rates will would expire and we will experience the largest tax increase in u.s. history. amid so much economic suffering, raising taxes would have a devastating impact on o
of the modern economy? >> it is available. we can do better with it. they are facts like completion rates for the gi bill education are not as high as they ought to be. we can structure some of those programs better so that individuals who start school have the support mechanisms to finish an associate's degree or bachelor's degree if that is their goal. we can do better at that. there are well-intentioned programs that are not quite efficient or effective to this point as i hope there will be in the future. >> the university of iowa offers in-state tuition for returning veterans. i said to the president -- what is the impact on the campus? she said -- beyond my ability to describe it -- we have 200 of them here. they lifted the entire campus. as someone who went to the university of iowa -- i could have used that kind of mentoring and leadership at one point. we do not have to go do that again. paul, we talked about that. [laughter] that is value added when these young men and women come back and enter an academic or training program of some kind. >> i could not agree more. at my alma ma
and increase revenue without raising the top marginal rate. that most economists say would hurt the economy if we were to do it. >> the republicans are being confronted in the fiscal cliff negotiations about the no new taxes pledge, which of them signed. now lawmakers are pushing back. >> # $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming brief. republicans should put revenue on the table. he agrees with grover norquist that the tax rates shouldn't be increased and says norquist is wrong capping deductions to buy down the debt. >> graham has been saying raising taxes to give politicians more money to continue spending doesn't solve any problem at all. it's not a piece of solving the problem. >> allowing tax cuts to expire generate average of $82.4 billion a year and would run the government for 8.5 days. the reality is similar to what romney laid out in the campaign. my plan is bring down rates and deductions at the same time so revenue stays in. we bring down rates to get people working. >> they are meeting with ceos, caterpillar and goldman sachs and
facing lbgt people. and i said, i don't know, the economy or jobs -- jobs and health care. and they were like, you know, what are the lbgt issues? you know, these are the issues. we actually cut across every demographic status and that means that in many ways, every issue that is facing other people in society are the very issues that we are facing, too. the ones that have been the big issues, maybe a little bit more unique to some of the specific issues. but they are not the only ones. if we can make ourselves visible, obviously it is not inclusive of the entire community. he beat out a whole swath of this. how many people are married? even in the broader general society versus people who aren't married. that is even a smaller number for same-sex couples. we have a lot of work to do and a lot of discrimination of people continue to face. >> i wanted to talk about thinking about the future of marriage equality. however it goes forward through the states. there is very much a way that that could be mobilized for an aggressive agenda. i wondered if he wanted to make any connections between
amounts of money back into the economy. the energy picture looks a lot different than it did a few years ago. host: this natural gas boom that we have, why do you say we are in danger of blowing it? guest: there was a large amount of investment made in recent years to extract that gas. we are looking at different ways of using it. both the price and supply in the long term may be more constrained. guest: -- host: you also argue the problem of the aging energy trend. guest: is the transition to gas. this year a large portion of the energy produced in the united states, almost 50% is going to be produced by natural gas. a big change. a long-term evolution that we have been going through. coal-fired plants have been taken off line this year in record numbers. that has been made up by more utilization of existing natural gas plants. that is a good thing for the grid, it creates a lot of flexibility. the challenge that we have, as anyone living in the eastern part of the united states has recognized, is that the grid itself is very susceptible to storms and other kinds of power interruptions
us. come shop at our places, too. >> i hope not. they're an important part of our economy, right? >> that's a good point. small businesses are creating the lions share of jobs in this country. adding 50,000 employees in october. you look at the october jobs report. the government said private employers added 184,000 job. yeah, that's a sizeable number. we're seeing that momentum pick up over the past year. besides the jobs factor there's also a human element out there. not only are you keeping local communities afloat by shopping at these local stores, there's kind of a camaraderie when you walk into a locally owned family business and everybody knows your name and they want to help you. you're not just going in, sliding your credit card and walking out and feeling like just a number. you feel like you're actually welcomed into the store and you're helped personally. >> absolutely. that is a good part of being a small business person and relating to your customers in a warmer, more intimate way. alison kosik live at the new york stock exchange. thank you. >>> new twist on a very
.s. economy could certainly use a boost of holiday shopping. so what's the outlook? >> well, there are some good signs early. one of them comes from the national association of retailers. now, their projections tend to be pretty conservative. all the same. this organization believes that as far as retailers are concerned, it's going to be a pretty good 2012 holiday shopping season. we expect sales to rise 4% this year a little lower than last year. we really believe that consumers are feeling a lot more confident this year. now if you are looking for a segment to grow even faster than 4 hers projection try online already. ibm research signature it was up 17% on thanksgiving day. 20% already for this holiday shopping season, john? >> it turns out some of those black friday deals are not all they are cracked up to be. >> some of them, according to decide incorporated which part nerd up with a news corps fellow organization the "wall street journal" they took a look at some of these bargains and came to the same conclusion that shoppers came to that they are really deals. >> sometimes i think
the economy. and so he is trying to do this by this political move he's made that is now being contested. >> ambassador edward, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. >> my pleasure, fred. >> all right. i guess you could call it divine intervention. an oklahoma teen is sentenced to church instead of prison for a fatal dui crash. our legal guys praise the judge for this decision in they'll be weighing in. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> a maryland law goes before the supreme court in february, what happens there could affect more than half the country. let's bring in our legal guys avery freeman, civil rights attorney and law professor in cleveland g to see you. >> hello. >> richard herman, a new york attorney from las vegas as well.
economist, a very important one, which is because the world is so complicated, because the economy is so competent, because the city is so complicated that is trying to understand it is too hard for a small group of china's centrally located planners to ever fully be able to do. and so the way the markets work as they say look, no individual person has to understand the whole thing. the market works because every individual in the market understands just a little bit of it. you can focus on your part buying and selling, creating, sharing. in your part of the world, and over all the totality of all these agents will end up coming up with new solutions to problems, meeting people's needs and so when. so markets are a kind of pure network in that sense. where the pure progressives differ from traditional libertarians is that we don't think that markets solve every problem in society.elf there are many facets of human they experience that are not necessarily solved by mark is, in fact, markets create their own problems sometimes. they approach of bubbles and i things like that. in the intern
is so complicated, because the economy is so complicated because the city is so complicated, that trying to understand it is too hard for us in a centrally located planner so the way the markets work is no individual person has to understand the whole thing. every individual understands you can focus on your part buying and selling and creating and sharing and overall the to tell the theory of all of the major be the agents within the coming up with new solutions to problems meeting people's needs and so on, so the markets are a kind of peer network in that sense where the pier progressives differ from traditional libertarians as we don't think the market solvesont every problem in society and there are many facets of humanre builrience there are a lot of companies network that unitekind of that were trying to buildmparedr produced solution of the internet itself and the web and now wikipedia and many other things. there are places where you can use decentralized structure without involving traditional market relations, and that is what pier progressives are trying to do. >> host: what i
they come from, and then they give you some sort of drivel. this is a very, very, very weak economy right now, workers' wages are going down, we should point that out. that's why unions, that's why there's sympathy for what's going on here. we have a president of the united states to think -- that thinks to solve that issue it's good to raise taxes on everybody, even on small businesses. he's really not taking into account the economic impact of what's going on in the country right now. you have to have sympathy for these folks, but they should remember, they should heed the example of hostess and the automakers, you push too hard, there are economic consequences. job consequences and company-wide consequences. patti ann: briefly, the controversy over working on thanksgiving -- >> well, that's a joke. i mean, come on. listen, you take this job, my dad was a bartender. i washed dishes as a kid. we worked easter, okay? easter's a big italian-american holiday, by the way, but we did it because those were the conditions of the job. like i said, these are not coal miners, they're not risking t
for success as the economy is recovering. the gap between rich and poor in this country has never been greater. we need to find ways to create more balanced. we are fighting to say, less than have -- let's go back to the tax rate we had in the clinton era. when you are talking about marginal tax rates for those who are making above $250,000 -- the bottom line in california is not about pensions. california has passed do revenue from the recent election to try to get money back into schools. you are right that in a public education system, parents should not be asked to subsidize each and every day. that is what is happening in lots of places. i have seen across the country how parents are being axed. it would be better -- i have seen across the country how parents are being asked. there has to be transparency and there has to be accountability in terms of what the money is used for. thes go in and looked at well-rounded education kids have in private schools. in public schools, if kids have special needs, we have to pay more for education for kids with special needs. host: randi weingarten is
. it is a bill about opportunity for people who enjoy our outdoors in this country. the outdoor economy is some $600 billion, $600 billion a year. i've heard many times spoken on the floor if we're going to get the deficit and debt under control, we've got to grow our economy. this is about growing our economy. how? by allowing to have opportunity for hunters and fishermen for outdoor activists to go out there and utilize the great outdoors this country has to offer. montana and throughout this country. we're losing habitat every day. we have lost access to habitat for hunting and fishing and hiking. this bill will fix that. and i will go back to the point that senator sessions made. when i go back home, folks are talking to me about the debt. they're talking to me about the deficit. they're asking what we can do to fix it. and, quite frankly, this is one of the those things we can do to fix it. by increasing opportunities for our outdoorsmen and women in this country, we have the opportunity to increase our economy in a very, very positive way. like i say, we can talk about the duck stamps. th
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